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“…in proportion to his faith.”

January 1, 2007 · 15 Comments

Romans 12:6 in my NIV reads, “We have different gifts according to the grace given us. If a man’s gift is prophesying, let him use it in proportion to his faith.” I looked at 4 different translations and they all say the same thing, in essence. The basic idea of this particular verse is that the one prophesying should not go any further than the boundry of his faith, i.e. if it hasn’t been made sure in his inner man that he is to issue a word, then he is to go no further than the faith that is given. In another post I talked somewhat extensively about what faith is, so I won’t go into all that again except to briefly say that it is what is given of God to us so that we may know conclusively that He is, or that something is issuing from Him in the moment. So how does this affect the area of prophetic speaking?

First, I have to share a story about Bethel Church’s Supernatural School of Ministry and how they “train” people to prophesy. This story involves two friends of mine, only one of which won’t mind me using his actual name, so the unamed man will be called “Dude”, and he’s the one currently going to the school as we speak. Richie is the guy he was talking to about his schooling and what it entailed.
The conversation was small talk mostly until Dude told Richie that in his “prophetic training” they take people and put them behind partitions so that they can’t see and bring in a guy or a girl and made the one behind the partition “give them a word from the Lord”. My friend Richie asked Dude, “what if God isn’t giving you a ‘word’?” Dude’s response just floored Richie, and myself as well when I heard it. Dude said, “you just guess“, to which Richie was quick to tell him that “that ain’t God bro!”. Apparently there is this popular teaching there that God is constantly sending out messages, like radio waves, and you just have to have your “bunny ears up” to recieve and that sometimes you should just say what pops into your mind cuz it “might be God.” I guess there’s no fear of it just being presumptious flesh being put on the spot to perform? The bible says that the flesh wars against the Spirit of God (gal. 5:17) and that the Spirit of God is at war against the flesh. Why not wait until God gives assurance of a word, just as He gives us assurance of salvation (1 John 5:10)? Didn’t Jesus say that the Spirit of God would guide into all truth (John 16:3)? That’s not just doctrinal truth, but ALL truth. He doesn’t guide us into vagueness and require, much less desire us to speak without knowing He’s in it first. Romans 14:23b says that “anything not done in faith (absolute assurance that God is okay with it) is SIN.”

So how might God view this teaching at this school that is teaching people to guess because “it might be God”? I honestly wonder how much place scripture is given in settings such as these.
Playing guessing games with the souls and minds of men and women should be a frightening and sobering proposition for us and is serious business to God. This makes me think back to Jeremiah 23:16 where the Lord said that these kinds of prophets “speak visions from their own minds and not from the mouth of the Lord.” In other words, they just guess or shoot out whatever they think is fitting or “might be” from God. The problem with the kinds of people who run after these prophets and the prophets themselves is that if they persist in this then God may sorta begin bumping their heads into one another, so to speak. Observe Ezekiel 14:7-11:

Eze 14:6 “Therefore say to the house of Israel, ‘Thus says the Lord GOD, “Repent and turn away from your idols and turn your faces away from all your abominations.
Eze 14:7 “For anyone of the house of Israel or of the immigrants who stay in Israel who separates himself from Me, sets up his idols in his heart, puts right before his face the stumbling block of his iniquity, and {then} comes to the prophet to inquire of Me for himself, I the LORD will be brought to answer him in My own person.
Eze 14:8 “I will set My face against that man and make him a sign and a proverb, and I will cut him off from among My people. So you will know that I am the LORD.
Eze 14:9 “But if the prophet is prevailed upon to speak a word, it is I, the LORD, who have prevailed upon that prophet, and I will stretch out My hand against him and destroy him from among My people Israel.
Eze 14:10 “They will bear {the punishment of} their iniquity; as the iniquity of the inquirer is, so the iniquity of the prophet will be,
Eze 14:11 in order that the house of Israel may no longer stray from Me and no longer defile themselves with all their transgressions. Thus they will be My people, and I shall be their God,’” declares the Lord GOD.”

The most frightening thing is that we see that God is actually “prevailing upon” the prophets to prophesy falsely according to the deceptions of these people, to give them a word in favor of their lives so as to destroy them both; the one seeking a word and the one giving it. You see, these false prophets today aren’t just operating out of the flesh or in a worst case scenario a demon, but it is just like with King Saul, i.e. “Now the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD terrorized him. Saul’s servants then said to him, “Behold now, an evil spirit from God is terrorizing you.” (1 samuel 16:14-15)

Even those around him knew the truth. No one had to tell them, they could see it and they didn’t even have Ezekiel or Jeremiah or the N.T. to tell them that God would send delusions to those who consistently reject the Truth (2 Thess. 2:10b-12). I’m not saying that everyone who operates this way is demonized, but I do believe that it’s dangerous ground to be on when you have a God who in times past has ushered in a deception to the people of God that causes them to prophesy. And when this kind of ‘prophetic movement’ is ushered in by God Himself, it is always immensley popular and becomes the ‘majority rule’ mindset.

Just as a side note, many different scholars that I’ve read up on define “prophesy” in an interesting and frightening manner. It seems that its meaning has two natures; one for the true prophet, one for the false. For the true it simply means to speak forth the word of the Lord. But when this word na’ba (prophesy, in Hebrew) is used regarding the false prophet it means, “to rage, to play the madman, to act insane accompanied by loud shrieks and spasmodic jerking of the body.” This actually reminds me of something that was once hailed as an ‘extreme disciple’ recording of alleged words from the Lord, but I digress.
There’s something bad in the well water saints, and I believe that God Himself put it there. The only thing more scary than that is what he states as His reasons for doing so. He said in Deuteronomy that this was from Him to test the love of His people, to see wether or not they would run after someone preaching a false message though it be accompanied by signs and wonders.

There wouldn’t be such a ready supply of this kind of thing if there wasn’t such a demand. That, I believe, is the biggest part of the problem. We want God to be something other than Who and What He is. When we can’t find Him to be this thing, or person, we seem to repeat the same mistakes as our Israelite forebears, i.e. adding a little and taking away a little from who God is; we exalt certain passages and ignore others that require something from us.

Guessing in prophetic things is like shooting craps. (Goodness sakes, at least use loaded dice!) It’s an unsure thing to guess. To guess presupposes doubt. Just because guessing sometimes proves right doesn’t give us any luxury to indulge in it when prophesying to an open heart. Doubt is all the more incentive to keep silent until God makes something sure. Oswald Chambers says, “When in doubt, don’t!” I agree, and so does Paul the apostle. That’s why he said what he said in Romans 14:23. In fact, to do something in anything less than full assurance of the Spirit of God is to bring condemnation upon us. We are condemned by doing anything from the realm of doubt, especially prophesying!!! And yet these “prophetic elite” continue to teach this wrong teaching. And the worst part is that it’s not just doctrine that is debatable and doesn’t really affect the christian walk that much, but rather it is the very issue of God and His thoughts and wether or not what we are hearing is truly that. Would you walk across an unstable bridge over a raging river? Me neither, but that is the spiritual equivalent to what these kinds of folks are doing all over the world who subscribe to this. And what compounds it is that many are sooooo open to personal prophesy (and indeed run after with undue and indiscriminate zeal) that they will actually coordinate their lives around “words” from the Lord, so-called at least.

So if you go to this school or are taught this kind of thing by anyone then know this: God is not okay with anyone speaking on His behalf who has not first stood in His council to recieve His words (Jer. 23:22). True prophetic speech is that kind of speaking that brings the reality, truth and majesty of God to bear upon the hearer. It brings weight, conviction and power to shake the inner man no matter what he thinks he believes, religiously, philosophically or otherwise. The true prophetic speaker has stood in the council of God in the secret place and carries about in him a kind of deposit of those times with God where He has revealed His holiness and His character, and anything spoken that does not proceed from that Holy God is instantly detected and rejected. Why? For the same reason that no woman can call my cell phone and try to impersonate my wife. I have known her for years and carry in my mind an experiential knowledge of how she speaks, what she sounds like and what kinds of things she says and even how she thinks. It’s similar with God, though it is in part (1 Cor. 13:9), yet that does not in any way suggest that being partial it is necessarily mixed with falsity, it’s just not the whole picture. When a prophetic word is uttered and is even keeping with what things God has said in the past and matches what kinds of things He would have or will say yet did not have its origins in the mind of Christ, it can still be only a human will uttering what it knows cranially, but didn’t recieve from the Holy Place, that is, the private council of God. This is just dangerous. “The good is the enemy of the perfect”.

Guessing is not from God. It is sin, however well meaning, and it is so sinful that it can bring actuall condemnation onto us (if not corrected) such as the kind we spoke of in Ezekiel 14 and 1 Samuel 16 earlier. I might also remind you of the scenario of Michaiah and Ahab and the 400 false prophets all speaking “thus saith the Lord”, yet all of them speaking by a lying demon that asked God for permission to do His work…which, frightfully for the false, God allowed it and even knew that it would be successful. Wow…an actuall demon, employed of God to decieve those who claim to speak on Yahweh’s behalf. HE’LL HAVE NONE OF IT, YOU CAN BE SURE OF THAT!!

When you begin to open your mouth and speak things in a prophetic fashion, yet you are not absolutely convinced of its origins as proceeding from God, you numb your discernement so that the next time its easier to say what is not of God, then its easier after that and so on, and so on until you finally cannot distinguish the difference between your soulish nature and God. When that happens and you continue to speak for God, though not really from His actual council, the Liar is just around the corner asking to have a place in your speaking and this should cause you to have much sobriety as you ponder the potential outcomes of speaking words that some will follow, permanently altering their lives and possibly diverting their lives from God’s eternal purposes.

If you speak for God out of doubt and “guessing”, stop now while you still have time and repent!! Get alone with God and get away from this wrong teaching and hold your peace. Learn to obey the voice of God in your everyday mundane life, in your marriage, regarding your fathering/mothering, in your workplace as it relates to integrity. These are the true training grounds of a prophetic spokesman, not spouting off conjecture to fulfill a quota for your prophetic training class. You won’t find your giftings and God’s unction being ultimately lessened, but increased…though you may experience times of what seems like a silence from God. This is normal; God took 40 years to make Moses into a man to lead Israel out of Egypt, who knows how many for Elijah, 30 years for John the Baptist, 30 years even for Jesus, the very Son of God! (uh, and actually very God Himself), and altogether about 17 years to make Paul the man who could be a “sent one”. This, I believe, is the big temptation for us. We all want to be out doing instead of being. Let your doing come forth from your being. Be patient. Let God distill your soul and ferment your spirit. Remember what it was first like when you knew you were born again? Remember that absolute, unshakeable knowledge in your inner man? That is the same criteria for speaking for God. That same assurance that let’s you know you’re saved is from the Spirit of God, and it’s the same assurance from the same Spirit that must proceed all prophetic speech and spiritual gift operation.

Think it over. Chew on it. Digest it.
May the Lord’s smile and blessing be upon you,

mark jr.

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  • tyler // February 2, 2007 at 8:42 am | Reply

    Well, I am going to look into this more. But my own personal experience can actually relate to some of this crazy stuff of trying to hear God for someone. Recently, I asked the Lord if He had any words of encouragement for this one specific dude that I knew but was not real close to. Suddenly, the idea came to my mind of him being a peasant farmer working hard in the fields. Then, the idea of much fruit popped in my mind. I saw that he was reaping and he was sowing. I wondered if the word “peasant farmer” popped into my mind because he was doing lowly work or maybe work that wasn’t being noticed by others. So here’s the deal: I got these thoughts in very unsupernatural kind of way. It seemed like my own thoughts, but at the same time I know that God speaks to our heart and we often interpret what he says in our own minds. That’s obvious. So I really doubted that this was God, but I thought it just might be because after I asked God for a word this is what I got. So I ended up telling the guy the possibility of me hearing God for him because I knew this wouldn’t hurt him if I was off. He said, “OH, my gosh. You are absolutely right on this one. Wow. I said in my heart recently that I wanted to do the Lord’s work on my own where noone knows about it. I’ve been going out witnessing for the Lord.” so that’s how the whole peasant thing fit in. So the Lord through me wanted to give him some encouragement. He was really encouraged. My point being that although I see why these guys methods seems and may be weird, but at the same time I understand this concept of stirring up the gift and at least trying. You’ll never learn if you never try. Don’t start out by telling someone something crazy that could really be a big deal, though. But everyone I’ve ever known who hears from the Lord struggles with knowing what’s their own voice and God’s. This is overcome with time and experience. By the way, I was praying for my another friend the other day and felt like another word came to me for her. I honestly thought it may have just been me cause it sounded like my own thoughts. I called her and told her and she said she really needed it and was encouraged by it. So what do you think about these experiences?

  • Mary // May 12, 2007 at 10:03 pm | Reply

    Yes Mark Jr.,
    I’d like to know. A girl I met at work a few years ago was a christian. We got to talking about my job and my husband’s job. He was really struggling. She told me he was in the wrong field. He was meant to be a pastor. Now my husband has never shown any interest that way at all.

    So how do you know for sure what is from the Lord and what is something you are creating in your own mind? I don’t mean to be a pain. I know you have said to test it to the word. I guess it’s just something you chew on in your mind for a while and see if the Holy Spirit is saying yes.

  • Mary // May 12, 2007 at 10:07 pm | Reply

    Actually,
    I need to reread this article because as I skimmed over it (I read it before) you already answered our question-both Tyler’s and mine I think.

    You said “If you speak for God out of doubt and guessing…” So never mind. Ignore this.

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  • Matt // September 14, 2007 at 9:44 pm | Reply

    I also need to reread the article, my head hurts already. I wanted to say one thing though mostly to Mary but to Tyler something too.

    I have found with prophesy in my life, the Lord confirms it several times if you are attentive to the Spirit. Meaning that a prophet gives you a word, like the pastor thing. Well go and pray about it and even pray for confirmation. What other people call “synchronicity” meaning that God will confirm it in a way that could not be human. I.E. people that don’t know you or each other saying the exact same thing, God bringing you to a place in the word that confirms it, dreams, etc.
    I know a guy who is called to Indonesia, and he cannot escape the confirmations. He works in the airport at LAX and random people keep going “whens the last time you were in Indonesia,” or “I can see you on a river in Indonesia” this had been coupled by dreams of his own and divine appointments with connections in that country. God is amazing.

  • Matt // September 14, 2007 at 9:58 pm | Reply

    Tyler and anyone else. As far as prophesy goes, I have found through experience on both sides(giving and receiving) that a lot of times we can just say something in our minds that we feel/see about a person(if it is in love and for building up/encouraging) and not have to put the title of “I think this is from God” to it. If it is from God, they’ll know, because God will have been preparing them to receive it. If its from the human mind(and from love) then it is still good to have honest encouragement and advice from a brother.

    Sometimes it’s just a phrase or a word, and you can just say it out of any context. We have no idea what the Lord has been doing to prepare the person for that word.

    Example(receiving): Had a prayer meeting with a friend on friday, the next week I was in Kauai on vacation and I got a phone call. Daniel could not get the image out of his head of a heart covered in dented and dirty metal plating and scarred on the inside flesh, but the Lord pulling off the armor and putting on new armor around the heart. Thank God he called me even though he wussed out on friday, because little did he realize I had already had that image in my dreams from months before and even drew it in my journal with the metal plates and all! That was from the Lord and I hold it dear.

    Example2(giving[on accident]): I was at the beach in Kona and ran into a Brazillian lady on vacation. within the first 3 minutes of saying “hi” she was asking me what I did for work and livelihood here in Hawaii. I told her that I had been just living by faith(I had been camping for several months upon my arrival) and immediately she began to break down and cry. Upon explanation she had just looked at the campgrounds and saw the campsites divided by letters “E-F” well because the sand was covering part of it, she read “FE” which is “faith” in Portuguese(apparently according to her). She was on vacation for several weeks before getting married to a guy she’s not sure of and getting a new position with a big company she doesn’t know if that’s what she wants for her life, etc. etc. In other words a turning point of her life. Here I am just talking and the Spirit gave here that word on the sign and then through me. I told her not to forget that sign and to pray for guidance, but I didn’t have any answers to her life direction. Who knows what she did? (as a side note, she was later trying to tempt me sexually, but thank God I resisted—Rom 7:21 “So I find it to be a law that when I want to do right, evil lies close at hand. ” I could have really screwed that up)

    Sorry for the long response, but I always like stories so I hope these help.

    matt

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  • Karen // November 7, 2007 at 5:23 pm | Reply

    I am in the midst of trying to jump over big logs in a fast-moving river. A dear friend gave me a book to read by Bill Johnson, When Heaven Invades Earth. I am seeing it as an opportunity to spoonfeed her with truths that she has never considered. She is in the Vineyard church and just lives for God’s manifested “presence.” She works in D.C. for God.TV and admires personalities that I cringe to hear speak.

    This friend daily reads the prophecies on Elijah’s List. She prints them out and absorbs them and ponders and prays them. Yet she does not do the same with the Word of God in the Bible. She has no concept that the last days will be filled with religious deceivers. I am yearning to be used of God to help her.

    I am thankful for your comments and have only begun to read here. But, I agree with the discernments I am hearing, thus far. One interesting thread that seems to run throughout this prophetic movement (Patricia King, Randy Clark, Rick Joyner, Bill Johnson, a host of others on Elijah’s List) is denial of the truth of a rapture prior to the Second Coming of Jesus at Armageddon to establish His Kingdom. I think this is very interesting in light of 2 Thess. 2:3-12.

    What deceives most ignorant Christians? The very fact that miraculous healings, signs and wonders accompany these false teachers. How can these Christians be in error when their works reveal they must be real? The Antichrist himself will deceive multitudes through his demonic ability to perform lying signs and wonders. We must wake up and try the messengers by the Word of God — for if they speak not according to God’s Word, there is no true light in them.

    I believe that God is raising up a remnant who will not love their brother or sister more than God and His truth. Jeremiah tells us that we are in a time when you cannot trust in any brother. For none will speak the truth with his neighbor. Multitudes will remain in their deception because others fear losing the friendship by speaking the truth in love.
    God forbid that we be judged unfaithful because we refused to tell them the truth. Then their blood will indeed be on our shoulders in the day of judgment.

    I believe God wants to send us forth to “impart” truth to those who have been deceived by erring brethren. I believe also that most will not believe the possibility exists that they have been deceived and will refuse to examine the truths we present to them. These will then be turned over to “strong delusion,” and will join hand-in-hand with Antichrist to persecute and turn in those who have been faithful to tell them to repent of their deceptions.

    I only want to be faithful over the few God has brought in my life. If I am faithful in the little God has indeed given me, I will be proven faithful over more. God has said exhorted us not to be weary in well doing. We are to withdraw ourselves from every professing Christian who walks out of order with God’s Spirit. But we are to first admonish him as a brother. If they will not hear and obey God, then we are not to continue in company with them. These are hard sayings for me. But, God knows what is best for me and for those in error. We cannot continue to walk in falsehoods, fearing rejection and persecution. For if we indeed live godly in Christ Jesus, we will suffer persecution.

    Thank you for being willing to speak what you’ve heard and share as you have. I am being helped and I want to be faithful to help others. We do have a guarantee that God’s elect will hear and follow His Voice. It is for those Jesus’ died and for those He everlives to make intercession for. May we have grace to do the same.

    In Jesus’ Name — Karen

  • Thomas // March 30, 2008 at 11:09 pm | Reply

    Karen,

    When you said, “the truth of the rapture,” did you mean that you believe that the rapture will happen before the 2nd coming of Christ and these alleged “false prophets” you named are incorrect by being in denial of the rapture? 2 Thessalonians 2:13 speaks absolutely nothing about the rapture. In fact, Art Katz often called the rapture theory, “the church’s great apostasy.” Art believes that the ultimate test for the true church lies on whether it lays its own body to protect the Jews when the Jacob’s trouble comes in the end times.

  • Paul B. // June 16, 2009 at 6:51 pm | Reply

    Just a quick note on the Bethel School’s “guessing game”:

    I first heard it phrased as “just make something up”, and when I heard that, I was shocked too. However, when I looked into it more, the explanation is when we enter the Kingdom of God by accepting His son Jesus, we are given the mind of Christ. If we have the mind of Christ, then we are sharing His thoughts. Therefore, if we ask for a prophetic word for someone, as long as it lines up with God’s word, wouldn’t the words that come to mind not be God’s word for that person? The point of prophesying is to encourage the person, and I believe that God being as good as He is wouldn’t hold out on us. He wants nothing other than to encourage someone with His words of truth because He is good and He is in a good mood.

    We’re children of the King. We’re royalty. We share thoughts with God. That’s all they’re trying to teach.

  • mark jr. // June 17, 2009 at 11:25 pm | Reply

    Yeah, I get all that, but it still is a bit of a stretch. The Spirit of God witnesses to Himself and if you’re having to guess without assurance it’s sin according to Paul in Romans 14. “That which is not done in faith is sin”. Better to put it forth as an encouraging word rather than a “thus saith the Lord”. That’s where I cannot swallow the deal. I’m all about the gifts dude; I love the kingdom and all it entails and being a citizen of it.

    Just a thought; what if God is in a bad mood?

    mark jr.

  • Paul B. // June 17, 2009 at 11:54 pm | Reply

    That’s why it’s called training. They’re there to practice. Most have never prophesied before. How much faith could one have in something they’ve never done before? That’s like telling someone to fly a plane even though they have no previous experience doing it, and they’re not aloud to have any doubts about it.

    Faith the size of a mustard seed can move mountains. When God sees one of His kids step out of their comfort zone to prophesy, He says,”Wow! Now, THAT is faith!.”

    Seriously though. Just ask Father what he thinks. He’ll tell you the truth about it. I’ve visited Bethel and attended a their ministry school for a week, and that was more than enough for me to know that those people are very real and down-to-earth. Anything they teach is whatever Father has taught them. Also, ask Father about His mood. I promise you He’ll tell you He’s in a good mood :-) . That’s my Papa. He’s really good.

  • IWTT // June 18, 2009 at 6:46 am | Reply

    Paul,

    Paul states that prophecy is superior to foreign languages. Why? Because if the “end” is evangelism and edification, then foreign languages are merely a means to that end. Prophecy (preaching and teaching) is the end because it is the means God used to bring conviction of sin and repentance to the glory of God.

    The verb προφητεία (prophecy) can mean foretelling or forth-telling: “preaching the message of God, the gift of preaching the message of God; an inspired message; intelligible preaching, and intelligible message” [lexicon from the Greek New Testament].

    Certainly those trained for ministry by the apostles, such as Timothy and Titus, preached the Word of the Lord; in that sense they were engaged in “preaching the message of God” (prophecy) both from the Old Testament and from the apostles who received new divine revelation. Those in the early church who denied apostolic revelation were marginalized. Even Paul recognized that much of what he was speaking and writing was divine revelation,

    “If anyone thinks he is a prophet or spiritual, let him recognize that the things which I write to you are the Lord’s commandment. But if anyone does not recognize this, he is not recognized.” 1 Corinthians 14:37-38

    But Paul certainly did not extend this authority to simply anyone in the church who “prophesied” as their prophecy was likely of the forth-telling variety.

    Very few have known any thing of the mind of God by a natural power. But, adds the apostle, we have the mind of Christ; and the mind of Christ is the mind of God. He is God, and the principal messenger and prophet of God. And the apostles were empowered by his Spirit to make known his mind to us. And in the holy scriptures the mind of Christ, and the mind of God in Christ, are fully revealed to us. Observe, It is the great privilege of Christians that they have the mind of Christ revealed to them by his Spirit. Matthew Henry

    All this to say that I believe the verse used , “The mind of Christ” has nothing to do with prophecy and is again mans attempt to use a single verse out of context to support mans-own-vain-imagination of a theology to fit what they are practicing.

  • mark jr. // June 18, 2009 at 10:01 am | Reply

    Good one Iwan.

    And again, as far as the whole “practice” thing goes, you don’t practice gifts; they are given. I never practiced speaking in tongues. I speak as the Spirit gives utterance. I never practiced being regenerated; He did it.

    You don’t practice prophesying, per se. You practice the presence of God, i.e. you live moment by moment obedient to all He shows you in the Word, during the day as He guides in the little things of life and then these schools of obedience teach you what it’s like to hear the Lord for yourself. Once you have been built up this way by Him it is quite a bit easier to know if He’s saying a certain thing at a certain time to a certain person or group of people. Now you don’t have to be a klutz; you have walked with Him and know Him.

    I could say much more but I have to get ready for work and that means making coffee.

    mark jr.

  • Vincent alderman // July 4, 2009 at 8:13 pm | Reply

    Hey mark… I just worked my way through this posting, taking notes the whole way down and I still don’t have a grip on it’s entirerty. This is scary stuff man…anyways, thanks for the insight.

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