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As of 7:20 p.m. (6/28/07) Central time, Art Katz is in his eternal home with the Lord whom he so diligently served and spoke for.
I don’t know what to say. Even when you expect something for a while, it still hurts when it comes. I’m speaking of his physical condition in the last year. I knew he was going, but it still hurts.
Art, not that you can read this, but thank you for all you gave to me. Thank you for the clarity in your speaking, thank you for not pulling punches even when it cost you your friendships with others. Thank you for being a demonstration of a real prophetic man in a sea of so much that is false. I love you dearly and can’t wait to see you again one day. Words can’t express what impact and change you have had on me.
I miss you already…
19 responses so far ↓
Mary // June 29, 2007 at 5:04 am |
Mark Jr.,
I don’t know what to say. Because of you I started reading his articles and fell in love with his insite, depth, comprehension….
I remember you mentioning he had some health problems but I had no idea. I was praying to the Lord that He would keep Art around for awhile
because we need him here. But this is better -for Art’s sake.
What a writer. What wisdom.
Marcus French // June 29, 2007 at 9:08 pm |
Hey man,
Found your blog by searching for Art Katz related stuff today, we were in Scott Volk’s homegroup together at the beginning of this year. Nice blog, though I think you may be a little too harsh on MorningStar and Bethel, but we are free to disagree. Losing Art stinks, I’d just started to listen to some of his sermons and books and the such over the past year, and was amazed to finally find a man that was preaching some of the same things that have been building up in my mind and heart for years.
See you at Fire!
Marcus
Eddie // June 29, 2007 at 10:42 pm |
mark,
As I read your blog ,the words of Paul to Timothy came to mind……”I thank God, whom I serve with a pure conscience, as my forefathers did, as without ceasing I remember you in my prayers night and day, greatly desiring to see you, being mindful of your tears, that I may be filled with joy, when I call to remembrance the genuine faith that is in you…….”
Eddie
sam // June 29, 2007 at 10:47 pm |
Hey mark,
I am sad that Art went home, only because thats a man i wish i could have sat in the congregation of, to hear him speak the wisdom of God.
But he is in a well deserved place write know worshiping God in a new body with no health problems.
I am very excited and love the fact that he left us with wonderful resources to learn from. I would advise any one who reads this to get a grasp of God and get away from the hype and fake christianity that art so hated in the church. Get real, stop wasting your time and seek the face of God.
If their is one man you can learn from its Art.
God bless
P.S. I am still learning from your great wisdom art.
JC Smith // June 30, 2007 at 7:21 am |
I heard about Art last night and all I can say is “praise God!” Art stayed the course, finished his race and met his ‘great gettin’ up morning’ the way he lived his life- unafraid. Another saint of God graduated and we are one closer to our numbers being fulfilled.
We lost a soldier but he left a legacy, many of them in fact, including you, Mark. What else can any of us hope for in the end?
Now go out and live what he taught!
paul // June 30, 2007 at 9:33 am |
We, some young people in germany feel same like you. we lost a father and now we have to live like he did.
God bless you
mbaker // July 1, 2007 at 10:31 pm |
I too have been listening to some of Art’s sermons lately. Something he said that struck me as truly prophetic, although it was actually part of a prayer that preceded one of his sermons was this :
“As Christians we don’t need to be so worried about our carnality as we do our spirtuality.”
Art well knew the state of the church today and where it is headed, if we don’t insist upon both individual, as well as corporate accountability.
Mark, as was mentioned above, I hope you will carry on Art’s legacy to all in your own generation, who are not receiving much of God’s truth any more in the charismatic church. I can think of no finer tribute to a life well lived.
Blessings.
Helm // July 3, 2007 at 9:54 am |
he was my father, too.
Helm // July 4, 2007 at 10:32 pm |
Acutally it is great to found some people who are not enjoying the shallowness of the actual christian status quo, so i put you on my blogroll on http://www.hrichert.de !!!
Jackie // July 11, 2007 at 6:10 am |
In regard to the post on Mike Petro – I’ve been to a number of his meetings and I think that he is right on. Because his ministry is to wake up the church, his message doesn’t always come in the package that we are used to. Primarily his message is that just as you are not saved without a revelation of who Jesus is, you will not grow in your walk unless you are continually digging into the scriptures and getting new revelation of Jesus through the Holy Spirit. When he talks about “the mysteries”, he is talking about the hidden messages in scripture. Jesus taught only in parables, and was continually saying to “get eyes to see and ears to hear”. Just as in the time of Jesus the Jews missed his coming because they didn’t see deeper into the scriptures, if the church doesn’t wake up she will miss this next move of God. Gold dust and wonders do follow his ministry, just as signs and wonders should accompany anyone who is really being used by God.
iseeitdifferently // July 11, 2007 at 8:39 pm |
Sorry, but that’s just more rhetoric that I’ve heard for years. I’m not trying to make fun of you or look down my German nose at you or anything, but I’m sorry….
Thanks for assuming that we want a “packaged” message….no doubt that’s you’re prophetic insight in operation….
Seems to me that the folk in the box are just as likely to be prophetic conference chasing people as anyone else. You’ve turned charismania into religion and oral law. You’ve become like Charisee’s.
I’d look elsewhere if I wanted to see what true prophetic proclaimation was. Check out guys like Katz, Wilkerson or Ravenhill or the Puritans of the 17th century like William Gurnall and Matthew Henry. That would be a good start…
mark jr.
bill // July 19, 2007 at 3:52 pm |
Mark,
My sympathies to you regarding the loss of your freind. Praise God, you will see him again someday. We have that hope.
I did not know Art Katz but found it “coincidence” that I heard Dr. Brown pray for him on an mp3 from Fire Church I was listening to last week.
Dr. Brown has had a big influence on me; we have met, I’ve devoured his teachings, I’ve even (with his permission) taught almost verbatum his teaching about how Jesus healed out of Compassion. We are about the same age, saved during the Jesus freak time, and I’d have to say of the two of us, he has done better!
However, at about the same time I left the “prophetic church” I noticed FIRE school seemed to be using guest speakers from Morningstar. Accck!
You see I left the charismatic church after seeing a semi-private sword-knighting ceremony, and you know where that came from.
And a recently as last year FIRE school had an IHOP franchise (FHOP) which I assume was doing harp and bowl. Has that ceased?
Brown and Gladstone are speaking at a John Lake conference with Bill Hamon. Guilt by association?
SO my question is, and perhaps you can help me, is where does FIRE school stand on all of this nonsense? The mp3s I’m reviewing sound great, but what is behind it?
I work with young adults in our A/G church and would like to reccommend FIRE as something more solid than YWAM or Aquire or IHOP. Is it?
If you would like to take this off-list, email me at fawcetwd at jmu dot edu
Or we can talk about it here.
-Bill
bill // July 30, 2007 at 12:54 pm |
I had a chance to listen to Art Katz speak on “What is Apostolic” and “What is prophetic” on sermonindex. Very good- and refreshing to hear someone who was not hung up on “the office of the Apostle.”
John Books // September 7, 2007 at 6:04 pm |
Your readers might be interested in Peter Brock’s new biography on Art Katz that will be coming out in a few weeks. Check out the website
iseeitdifferently // September 8, 2007 at 12:31 am |
There was no small controversy about this book. It seems to have something of an expose` about it, showing the “dark side” of Art and his foibles and certain particulars. This guy made his website about a month before Art died, then released his book, officially, about a week or so after Art died.
Then he hijacked Reggie Kelly’s email list to send everyone on it a link to his book’s website…
There’s a lot more to it, but I for one refuse to give this man my money for the way he brought this thing out. It’s not that I wouldn’t love to read an insiders view of Art, but putting it out before he’s even cold…..and hijacking someone’s email list to solicit sales….fishy, very fishy.
In fact, I’m going to remove the link.
mark jr.
Mary // September 8, 2007 at 1:50 am |
Mark jr,
Is writer of that book the respiratory therapist that is mentioned in Ben Israel newsletter?
Sad that he would do something like that.
iseeitdifferently // September 8, 2007 at 6:30 pm |
I don’t think so. He’s a journalist of some 17 years.
Squirrely.
mark jr.
sclough // October 25, 2007 at 5:42 pm |
I could be wrong, but I think there are two Art books in the works. This first one and the other one mentioned in the Ben Israel newsletter that will not be done for some time yet.
Regardless, meeting Art in person at Ben Israel will always be one of the highlights of my life. He has been a huge influence on me and one of the few voices that I immediately identified with when I heard him.
Tom Q. // January 20, 2008 at 7:44 am |
Mark,
It seems like I ought to know you. I drove from Asheville to Charlotte for both of Art’s last messages there (Strange Fire).
Art has been like a father to me also. The Lord saw fit to put a half dozen or so of his messages in front of me in my first year as a Christian in 1985, and then again in 1987, a friend gave me a set on The Mystery of Israel and the Church, that percolated in me until his messages started appearing on the internet much later.
He has left us quite a legacy not only in his messages and books, but also in those saints whose lives have been altered because of his life.
One of the recurring messages of his last year was “In the year that King Uzziah died, I saw the Lord.” He was that kind of a figure in my life and I am expecting a fresh encounter with the Lord now that I no longer have Art to look to. We are still in that year.
I like your blog. Look me up next time you pass through Asheville.
Tom