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The Anchored in Truth Ministries “Reality Check” Conference with Paul Washer

January 1, 2008 · 24 Comments

This was in Chattanooga, TN on the last weekend of December. It was about 5 1/2 hours there…well, more like 6 hours because it rained pretty good going there and back. Much needed rain in this drought cursed South.

Well, I’ll just go over my notes here.
Tim Challies was at the conference and covered it a little better, probably, than me. You can check out his coverage here.

Brother Washer preached out of the Beattitudes for all 4 sermons and didn’t get too far through them. I mean, how can you so quickly go through what he called “The Christian Manifesto”? It oughta take almost 2 months to go through them if you want to do them justice. And Paul Washer being a prophetic man is simply not able to restrain himself from speaking in that fashion and as a result does not much teaching, per se. But that’s why they had prophets and teachers at the Church in Antioch. The prophet is the demolition man, the teachers are the nuts and bolts men. I’m not saying that Paul Washer can’t teach, I’m sure he can. He did draw out the meanings of some of the words in the original language and spring board off that, but again, he’s not a teacher. He wears a camel hair garment and a leather belt around his waist.

On the evening of 12/28 he talked about how possessing great privelage neccessitates great responsibility and drove home the point that this responsibility can have the potential for shameful judgment before God one day when we see the worthlessness of what we are about, thinking ourselves to be doing “the work of the ministry”. He made a statement that night (he made many that I’ll be putting forth here) that I had to jot down. He said, “People have wrong questions. Instead of asking, ‘why do bad things happen?’, they ought to be asking, ‘why does anything good ever happen?’”.
That is a perspective that really helped change me as far as being so quick to complain about life. This world is under a curse of sin and death and as a result, NOTHING good should logically ever occur. We should really be thankful for breathe, taste buds, the laughter of giddy children and anything else worth experiencing that has pleasure in it.

He also said that when it comes down to it, we really have only 1 problem. It’s not bills, it’s not our boss, spouses, children’s attitudes or any outside force—it’s a lack of Christlike character. And if you think about this, it’s absolutely true. Think of every sin, every short coming. Every problem rests under the umbrella of a lack of Christlike character. Fix this issue, and all others seem to wither in time. Deepen the roots in Christ and the tree stands strong and produces good fruit, resistant to wind, storm, drought, you name it. You become more and more impurturbable to life’s difficulties. Also, having a mindset that WE need to develop that Character puts the impetus upon us and crucifies our ability to blame others, or even the desire and propensity to do such.

I didn’t take very good notes on the morning of 12/29 because he seemed so full of words that I had to hear that I couldn’t even stop long enough to jot much down. This is why I’m stoked to find out that I can get the DVD’s off of www.anchoredintruth.org
So I jotted down 2 notes, but man were they powerful in the force in which they impacted my spirit, right into the guts. He said, “Jesus filled the apostles in a fraction of a second but it took Him 3 years to empty them”. Dang. Really makes me reflect on so much shallowness in Pretendacostalism and showed me the reason why there is absolutely no power, no real “filling to the full” and this is directly related to our lack of desire to be emptied of SELF. For crying out loud, some who may read this even have that accursed magazine on their coffee table. What a symbol of the radical love of our flesh and soulish natures, but I digress.
Again, he says, “You can’t know the joy of Christ until you know the depth of sin.”
Yeah, but isn’t this unloving? Didn’t Jesus just love? How can you show love while at the same time being so dogmatic about what sin really is to God, I mean, who are we to judge?

(For those of you who don’t know me, that was my typical sarcasm.)

OH! the love of God, the love that opens my eyes to see sin as not just hatred of God and His law but as a preference for what is humanly good and nice in the face of what is manifestly righteous and needed in a given situation!! How blind we really are. If we only knew the holy anger and burning hatred that a holy and loving God has against sin we would surely all the more love Him for first loving us! When it is revealed that even in our sin He loved us, died for us and made us His….when we see the sick and disgusting nature of sin at the same time that we see the love extended to us in that disgusting condition that is anti-christ, then we will truly know joy and love to the fullest degree. The American church lives as a loveless church toward God because she will not allow this God she says she love to open her eyes to her foulness and depravity. “It’s too much, I can’t bare it! I feel a bunch of condemnation!”. And you should, you are condemned outside of Christ.
I’m getting preachy…let’s move on…

In the evening session on 12/29 he had still not gotten past the second or third Beattitude. In fact, by the end of his last sermon he told us that he still had 24 pages of notes! Those will also be available on the Anchored In Truth website.
He spoke something to the affect of many of us having received the innoculation of the American Christian Gospel and as a result being impervious to Reality and Truth. We have no idea have damaging the “just choose Jesus”, or “just ask Him into your heart and mean it sincerely and He’ll definitely come in and you’re saved” message has been to America. It’s harder than ever to get Evangelicals Saved, as Paris Reidhead so wonderfully put it in a book he wrote by the same title (now called “Finding The Reality of God”, a MUST read). I honestly believe that there is nothing in store for America but true, heaven sent awakening and revival or judgment or both…the former on the heels of the latter. It’s a scary proposition, but how can you read prophetic scripture and see life any other way than how God Himself has revealed that He Himself sees it?

While speaking on “Blessed are they that mourn”, he spoke to the preachers in the room and said, “If your knee’s aren’t bleeding for the people your preaching to, stop preaching to them.” Amen. I can’t add anything to that.
I jump ahead to his speaking on the issue of mercy and he again admonished the preachers to be careful that in their zeal for hungering and thirsting for righteousness they don’t lose touch with mercy. He mentioned that it’s easy to be so zealous in this pursuit of God that we can look down our noses at those in sin, or those struggling with some issue that doesn’t tempt us. He said, “When you find someone in sin, don’t say ‘how could you!’ You should say, ‘how come I didn’t?’” In other words, we should ask, “Is it I LORD?”

He then said something that is a staggering blow to those who believe that those praying in the upper room were ‘agonizing’ in prayer. You see, especially in Pentecostal/Charismatic circles, we believe we have to rile ourselves up to shrieking, crying and screaming in prayer (agonizing) so that God will “do” something. Not all of us believe that, but it’s prevalent. And let me say really quick that agonizing in prayer is good if it is the burden of the LORD burning in you, the Spirit groaning things that words can’t express. Entirely biblical and right, but WRONG to be worked up in the flesh as a way of doing a thing a certain way to accomplish a certain end, i.e. manipulating God through emotional catharsis. It’s nothing more than the false prophets of Baal cutting themselves and jumping around their altars…but again, I digress.

Paul (Washer) said that those disciples were joyfully waiting for a promise that Jesus made to them. That statement hit me with that sort of a “duh!” kind of sentiment; like, it is such an obvious and scriptural truth, yet we seem to never have seen it. Jesus told them what to wait for and gave them something of a small taste of it before hand (when He breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit”). They saw Him make good on His promise of resurection, so there’s now no doubt in my mind that they were more than full of joy at the prospect of a part of the book of Joel being fulfilled soon.

Then he ended the night with this doozie: “People are going to hell not because of Hollywood but because of the church”.
Amen. It’s easier to blame others. But it’s rediculous to really be upset with the world for just being what it is. What do you expect, holiness? That’s like being mad because dogs bark. We oughta be mad at ourselves for not appropriating His means of Grace into our lives so as to be a channel of it to the lost. Don’t blame Hollywood and the porn industry, blame yourselves. You’re like a man who didn’t defend his house from a burglar/rapist even though you had many guns and endless ammo. You’re no man, you’re worthless and didn’t deserve your possesions or wife if you so lightly regarded your responsibility to defend their lives with what you possessed in the way of artillery. And so it is with the church: we sit on our one talent, doing nothing. This is why many will be “cut to pieces” and thrown into hell with the hypcrites.

And for the last morning session on 12/30, again I must confess, I was so riveted and attentive that it was hard to take notes. But he did speak on the uttmost importance of gaurding our hearts/minds. He spoke about the nonsense of boys playing Xbox for hours and years and never becoming a man, never being around grown up and Godly men and becoming wise, which in turn means that years were wasted and intead of being a man at 18 years old you are still an immature boy with no grounding in God, wisdom or His word because you twiddled your fingers and thumbs on a stupid control paddle trying to “beat the next level”. He also spoke about how young people don’t need to be around young people in order to grow, but that scripture teaches that young men need to be around grown men so that they learn to stop being dumb teenagers and become wise, Godly men. Same goes for silly, giddy girls walking around the malls acting loud and foolish, immodestly and sensuously dressed. The young don’t need to learn from other youngsters who are “just as dumb as you are”, as Paul told the kids; just look at what happened to Solomon’s son Rehoboam. He spurned the advice of his fathers counselors who were wise men and instead listened to his friends that he grew up with and as a result lost 10 tribes. Idiot.

He mentioned something that I’m going to do an entire blog on (one of these days). He said youth groups aren’t scriptural. You know what? He’s right. And I realized this a little more than halfway through my own season of youth pastoring. It only furthers the ‘generation gap’ and keeps the young from the older and as a result they stay stupid and immature and never grow up. They really only begin to grow in God once they leave the youth group and finally begin to be around older folks who know Jesus and then begin maturity….but this is unneccesary!! They should have begun that process at home with mom and dad and in the church with the elders so that by the time they are 18 and ready for the world at large they need not take 5 years to get “manned up”. No wasted time, just hit the ground running.

Well that’s it in a big nutshell…

…Paul, thanks for just being in Christ and being available to Him for His use.

mark jr.

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24 responses so far ↓

  • Eddie // January 1, 2008 at 7:28 pm | Reply

    Mark,
    Listening to Paul Washer and reading your notes brought back some words of another wise man we both know and respect.

    “I’m too old for games and I’m tired of rhetoric that doesn’t change anything.”

    Paul Washer doesn’t play games with his words and they change the people he comes in conatct with.

  • Eddie // January 1, 2008 at 7:30 pm | Reply

    “People are going to hell not because of Hollywood but because of the church”.

    Exactly! Finally someone had the…..(you place your word here)…to say it!

  • iseeitdifferently // January 1, 2008 at 7:35 pm | Reply

    CHUTSPEH!

  • noogatiger // January 2, 2008 at 1:34 am | Reply

    Good thing hell is a myth, huh?
    Anyway, I have a question for you guys.

    Who made the proclimation or determination or judgment call if you will that God was goodness and righteousness, other than God himself?
    I mean seriously, other than God himself who else or what else was there to measure him by? If only he existed, then he created the things he would ultimatly call good and the things he would call evil and it was totally his call, right? There is no absolute standard, other than his decisions, right? Since God made all the decisions about what was good and what was evil, then he could decide to change the rules at any minute couldn’t he? What would stop him, if there is no outside standard?

    The standard of Evil did not co-exist for eternity right alongside of God did it?

  • mbaker // January 2, 2008 at 6:45 pm | Reply

    Mark, Jr.

    Here’s someone else speaking out about where we are falling down with the youth. He is a very different kind of youth pastor. Since you have often expressed your concerns about the effectiveness of youth ministries as they are presently run in most churches, I thought you might like to read about this guys unique approach. It seems you have much in common. Enjoy.

    http://www.svchapel.org/Resources/Articles/read_articles.asp?ID=136

  • Eddie // January 3, 2008 at 3:26 am | Reply

    noogatiger,
    The burden of proof is still uopn you.
    You made a lot of absolute statements Do you have absolute truth to back it up?

  • iseeitdifferently // January 3, 2008 at 10:19 am | Reply

    No, he doesn’t. He’s a blog troll.
    In other words, he shows up and says something stupid and off subject to sidetrack us into some stupid nonsense.
    I just spammed someone’s comments the other day for that. He’s some wierdo oneness guy who believes in Jesus and Father being seperate (apparently) but that Jesus isn’t diety.
    So if people are going to keep doing this kind of dumb stuff I’m just gonna start deleting their crap cuz I don’t have patience for that.

    Noogatiger, go find a blog about hell and bug them, or wait till I write one. Have a little decorum around here and stay on topic without rudely taking things were you want to go for your own reasons. There are plenty of places and people you can annoy within the bounds of the posts they have already written. This isn’t a debate about Hell’s existence; find a place where it is and let yourself run wild and free.

    Pee Zow (peace out),
    mark jr.

  • Noogatiger // January 3, 2008 at 3:05 pm | Reply

    Well, it was this statement which got me going:
    “People are going to hell not because of Hollywood but because of the church”.

    Ah, there is no such place as hell boys. It was a concept not in the original scriptures. Here is a good place to start your awakening:
    http://www.thercg.org/books/ttah.html

    And I am in no way conncected with this group.

    Anyway, I didn’t offer any absolutes, or answers, so what do I have to prove, I just asked the question, where did the so-called absolutes come from.
    1. Who decided that God was Good.
    2. If God is good, what standard was used to measure this by?
    3. If there was no standard already in existence of good and evil, then wasn’t it simply by declaration of God himself, and isn’t this self serving?

    So where do the standards for good and evil come from other than the mind of God, his own likes and dislikes, and why would is it called goodness to impose this upon us?

  • IWanthetruth // January 3, 2008 at 9:47 pm | Reply

    Who Are We?
    In Matthew 16:18, Christ promised, “I will build My Church; and the gates of hell [the grave] shall not prevail against it.” His Church teaches the full truth of the Bible.

    The Restored Church of God, led by Pastor General David C. Pack, does teach all the true doctrines of God without compromise, as they were taught to Christ’s Church by the first-century apostles. We are the successors of the original Worldwide Church of God (WCG), which was established in the early 20th century—and we trace our roots to the first-century Church.
    Herbert W. Armstrong (1892-1986) led the Church of God for 52 years, beginning in 1934, when he established the Radio Church of God (later named the Worldwide Church of God). God called him in the fall of 1926 and he was converted in early 1927.

    This is from the about from the web site that Noogatiger has requested us to look at. Hmmm…. Noogatiger, why don’t YOU do some more reserach and find the truth about this man and the church….

  • Eddie // January 3, 2008 at 11:30 pm | Reply

    mark jr,
    Anyway… Thanks for sharing what you heard and learned. His preaching reminds me of a time when you and I had a “conversation” with some other men about offending others for the gospel sake. I LOVE how his preaching doesn’t leave that “wiggle” room.
    Eddie

  • iseeitdifferently // January 3, 2008 at 11:50 pm | Reply

    I remember that occasion.
    As I look back on that, it has a certain chill to it. That seemed to be the beginning of “the end”, if you know what I mean.

    Boy they sure tried to wiggle that night…did a jig for crying out loud!!

    We need more men willing to “cry aloud and spare not”. I need to be wounded where I’m obstinate. If no one is ever willing to devestate my categories or anyone else’s, then we all just sorta “tra-la-la” right on into absolutely worthless churchianity.

    I’m am sooo getting the DVD’s.
    Gotta go, the boy is getting into stuff and Jen’s trying to do dishes.

    I don’t personally see what’s so hard about being pregnant, doing dishes and trying to watch the doings of a 19 month old while I sit on my butt on this computer. Gosh! What’s her problem…

    Ha!!!
    Nah, she didn’t say anything, but I better go before she does.
    mark jr.

  • Mary // January 4, 2008 at 2:44 am | Reply

    I’ve been avoiding Paul Washer’s stuff cause I know it was going to be painful and it is. The great physician doesn’t use anesthesia. But I have to agree with everything he says. I can only take it in small doses as I get overwhelmed and unable to function. My experience as a youth group bible study leader was that we had the best of intentions but it just became a social club. I agree with Paul.Mature women should be mentoring the younger girls etc. It’s been awhile since I’ve heard such hard hitting truth. Boy, it hurts so bad.

  • lbolm // January 4, 2008 at 2:55 pm | Reply

    Mary wrote; “It’s been awhile since I’ve heard such hard hitting truth. Boy, it hurts so bad.”

    Mary, that’s why so many that believe in True prophets for today are not well received by “todays seeker friendly church”. The Word is The Truth, and yes it does cut sometimes, but with Jesus as the Healer, we all come through the surgery a little better than we went in. God’s mercy is only seen in HIS judgement or truth, when we don’t allow the “spirit of offense” to cloud our view of what God is doing at the time.
    I have been criticised for some of the messages I have given over the past 8 years as being “too hard”, but freedom comes when people receive it.
    A wise man seeks the truth and a foolish man runs from it!

    Love in Christ Jesus
    Jake

  • Noogatiger // January 4, 2008 at 4:03 pm | Reply

    See ya later guys, I know I scare the hell out of you.
    Anyway, Remember:
    If you ever stop questioning, you stop learning, and if anyone ever tells you to stop asking so many questions you are in a cult and finally, the ability to accept something on faith is not the same thing as the search for truth.

    That is why I am sure that Hell is not a scriptural concept. Hades, Sheol and Gehenna, the original words simply did not mean eternal life in flames, they only meant death. Jesus died to give believers eternal life, and those who don’t believe will simply perish just like John 3:16 says they will, and just like the rest of scriptures which says, the wages of sin is death. If we all have eternal life, just depends on where, then these verses are not true are they.

    Well, discuss amonst yourselves, and do your own study into the matter. Don’t take anyone elses word for the final word on the matter. Have fun. bye

  • Noogatiger // January 4, 2008 at 4:13 pm | Reply

    Just thought I would leave you with this link, for further thought:

    http://www.scaredofhell.com/

    See ya, but not in hell…………….

  • lbolm // January 4, 2008 at 4:52 pm | Reply

    nooga. wrote,”That is why I am sure that Hell is not a scriptural concept. Hades, Sheol and Gehenna, the original words simply did not mean eternal life in flames, they only meant death. Jesus died to give believers eternal life, and those who don’t believe will simply perish just like John 3:16 says they will, and just like the rest of scriptures which says, the wages of sin is death. If we all have eternal life, just depends on where, then these verses are not true are they.

    those whose name were not written in the book
    of life was cast into the lake of fire.
    Revelation 20:14-15 (in Context) Revelation 20 (Whole Chapter)
    Revelation 21:8
    But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

  • lbolm // January 4, 2008 at 4:54 pm | Reply

    I posted the above scripture from Rev. to show nooga. that yes you will spend eternity somewhere, and if it ain’t with God then the lake of fire is going to seem like hell to someone

  • Mary // January 4, 2008 at 5:02 pm | Reply

    Thank You Jake for taking the time to comment to me.
    You said:
    “God’s mercy is only seen in HIS judgement or truth”

    That’s very profound and true.
    God Bless

  • IWanthetruth // January 4, 2008 at 6:46 pm | Reply

    Matt 13:41-42

    This is for Noogatiger also…

  • Mary // January 4, 2008 at 7:59 pm | Reply

    ouch ouch ouch

  • noogatiger // January 10, 2008 at 2:11 am | Reply

    You guys are funny.
    lbolm, even if there is a lake of fire, hell, (as it was mis-translated), is thrown into it, and burned up annialated, gone, nobody will live eternally except believers. That is what John 3:16 teaches.

    Anyway I will take it up on the topic above.

  • Steve // October 25, 2008 at 1:44 am | Reply

    I have just found this website today! Have been a big fan of Art Katk, Dave Wilkerson, Ravenhill, Wesley, Spurgeon, Whitfield etc etc for some time now. What a great resource. Thanks for the comments above – I am preaching tonight and will quote some of them – strength and honor.

    Steve

  • Mr X // September 20, 2009 at 7:28 pm | Reply

    There is no god. Get over yourself please.

  • iseeitdifferently // September 20, 2009 at 7:43 pm | Reply

    OH NO! WHAT WILL I DO?
    Your logic has slain my God.
    Oh, and for some strange reason, I feel “over” myself.

    Thank you!

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